by DocWatson » 11 Jun 2010, 12:09, Post Boating related questions, small projects, custom work and talk go here. Pod width: 15-1/2" Made out of 0.100 inch thick 5052 marine grade aluminum Each small pod is 11 inches wide at the bottom. Try adding weight to the bow with gas tank, anchor, tackle, and/or battery. by MDFisherman57 » 01 Mar 2011, 09:07, Post What rpm's are you turning? Most Jon boats weigh an average of 200 pounds or 90 kilos, excluding the motor. With the motor trimmed in towards the transom gently increase speed so the bow of the Jon boat lifts up and out of the water. The number-one advantage of a jon boat, and one of the main reasons they’re extraordinarily popular, is … The whole setup is nice, I'm wondering does anyone an idea on how to get this boat to plane? Made proudly right here in the USA! A boat operator may locate a hard time in deciding on what boating accessories to purchase because there are amazing many selections to select from. On outboards without power trim, this angle is adjusted by changing the hole in which the adjustable tilt pin is inserted. Popular jon boat oars are made out of aluminum. Maneuverable and easy to transport, Alumacraft's high-performance, versatile Jon Boats have it all for work and for play. The prop is a brand new powertech stainless, with an 11 degree pitch. Talk about anything that floats your boat (no pun intended). If it planes, then start adding weight to it to see when it stops planing. Serious fishing boat. The all-welded aluminum hull provides the strength necessary to navigate larger bodies of water with confidence. Can you post pics of the angle its mounted now? I have the trolling motor and battery up front. The bottom of the hull isnt perfectly flat side to side and is slightly "U" shaped. Could be the tank not being vented. by KMixson » 11 Jun 2010, 12:39, Post What are the best jon boats? Then trim the motor up away from the transom. Mine will plane off with 2 people in it. It seemed like I had run out of prop before the boat would get on plane, accelerating hard out of the hole and then just hitting a wall. Jon Boats. Check out this battle-ready fishboat that the author customized. An old Erude 25 had my 14' with wood decks doing 20+ easily. Vent your tank, and try it again. These 10 foot utility waterfowl-hunting boats and utility fishing boats have an aluminum flat-bottom design so you can easily access shallow water when fishing or hunting ducks or geese from a boat. If it still won't plane might need to see the Dr. ↳ Jon and V boat Conversions and Modifications, Fishing Clubs (Electric Only, Jon, Regular), https://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s27 ... 0G3%20mod/, https://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopi ... 21&t=17055. The modest personal watercraft comes with an integrated jet pump that’s specially created for these smaller boats. by minicuda » 01 Mar 2011, 03:39, Post ↳ Jon and V boat Conversions and Modifications, Fishing Clubs (Electric Only, Jon, Regular), https://www.cabelas.com/p-0029965017444a.shtml, https://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/temp ... .jsp.form1, https://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopi ... 78&start=0, https://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopi ... 49&t=13389. My rig greatly benefited from a fin, helping me get on plane quickly, plane at lower speeds, and improved top speed. Have 14 foot jon boat with 9.9 merc on it and it wont plane out any suggestions - Answered by a verified Marine Mechanic We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. If the nose is to high I agree with the others the motor needs to be tilted toward the stern. The company has a wide range of vessels that vary in size, measuring between 10 and 18 feet long. In a small jon boat, a Predator 22 air drive setup will typically plane out: 1 person + gear in deepwater 2 people + gear in shallow water. How old is the gas in the tank? I used an 8 horse on my 14 jon at Red Wing and Alma for a couple years with no problem. Lund Jon Boat series (Best Jon Boat for the Money) Check Latest Price. If its left over from last summer that could be part of the problem. piece of cut sheat metal, like the sell at HD and cut it? For high-quality, high-value, and rugged-utility, you won’t find a better jon boat for the task than a Lowe Riveted Jon. Tunnel-hull jon boats work better when the weight – of batteries, gas, people, equipment and other things on the boat – is spread out evenly on the boat. By Tom Schlichter. It just seems like I cant get the front of the boat down. You might want to try taking it out on the water with just you and a life jacket to check it out. I think this little 12 will plane with your Five. If no luck after some seat time, then a cheap fix would be a hydrofoil fin. I would say, before you start buying stuff to get that thing back on the water and try every adjustment you can on the motor mount. Pods are to be welded or bolted to stern of the boat. MR. JOHN is the type of boat known by various names such as john, jon, or joe boat; punt, garvey, scow, or bateau... different words with the same meaning. My first boat was a 1236 with a 9.9 Nissan. Don't be discouraged by the first outing. I built 3 different jack plates before I was happy and I still think it could be better. Subscribe. by Zum » 28 Feb 2011, 12:41, Post by bcbouy » 28 Feb 2011, 01:38, Post Flotation pods are fantastic because they allow your jon boat to plane out much easier when hitting top speeds while also provided the much-needed support at the stern of your jon boat where most weight is situated. The motor weighs about 157lbs. Winter fishing won’t be a headache unless we hit a warm streak and the river comes up three feet. There are several types of boat that you can think about. Also make sure the height of the motor is right. I have a 25 on my 1448 and fuel and battery in back and can get on plane in a boat and half length. When a boat is cruising on plane and the trim is adjusted so that the propeller shaft is parallel to the surface of the water, that is said to be running at "neutral" or "zero" trim. Post When the boat starts to slow stop trimming. Boats. On a 12 footer, 5 hp isn't going to get you enough speed to counteract the bow rise of the weight of motor and operator in the stern. As an example, our jon boat has foam measuring 750mm x … Mariner = Relaxing on the Water... How would you make these fins yourself? Your thoughts, thanks. If there was a way to operate the motor while sitting in the middle of the boat, you might get it to plane. Jon boats tend to be small and light. I did get it on the water yesterday and ran it in a small pond, and I never got the boat to get up on plane. Its a center console with minimal stuff in the boat itself. The engine ran fine for a while, but then it shut down and won't re-start. Check your plugs and fuel filter too. boat transom called trimming "out" or "up." I agree with the previous two replies. If that doesn't do the trick you might want to add some weight to the bow by putting your gear up there and all. December 8, 2017. But the big advantage is in the boost at take-off. Of all the different types of boats on the market, jon boats are among the least expensive. I second Zum's suggestion. Vent your tank, and try it again. From the stern bench, grab the tiller and steer it towards your next catch. Any ideas? I did set the transom bracket to the next to last hole to try to push the front end down. by minicuda » 28 Feb 2011, 22:21, Post Small – Fits 12 to 16ft boats with boat width 48" or less. Jon Boats Length Classifications: 8 to 12-foot boats work best in small area-explorations. I have electric T&T and it makes a big difference. In small jon boats, it is important to keep the engine and air drive as … I bet you are not getting full power and have a fuel delivery problem. Ultimate Jon Boat. by bassboy1 » 11 Jun 2010, 14:29, Post Try getting that motor in as close to the transom as possible if it won't come down to plane first. What is a Jon Boat fishing boat used for? If it will not plane your only other option is to get a bigger motor. Carburetor adjustments too lean (not allowing enough fuel to start engine) Change the trim setting if it still will not plane. Boats. Just the basics, gas tank up front, battery in the back, trolling motor and thats about it. by Mike P » 01 Mar 2011, 15:25, Aero style developed for phpBB These ultra-tough boats will handle any job on the water. Sign Up ... media kit; email; facebook; twitter; instagram; rss; youtube; Skip to content. My 1648 does 30 with a 25 nissan 2 stroke. They’re designed to keep you safe and in control while also making sure that you’re comfortable. Boat Trader currently has 390 jon boats for sale, including 358 new vessels and 32 used boats, listed by both individuals and professional dealerships across the country. 5 HP on a 12' jon seems kind of small to get on plane. Good luck and throw us a pic of your new boat. Yeah, trade me your Jon for my 'V' ! Top speed with stock prop, at max rpm. Menu Sign Up. Stalker MV 120. I wrote an article all about floatation pods, so I’ve covered this topic extensively. by zerofivenismo » 28 Feb 2011, 10:11, Post I will have to wait for the next break in the weather to run it again. You might want to try taking it out on the water with just you and a life jacket to check it out. I have a 25 on my 1448 and fuel and battery in back and can get on plane in a boat and half length. The boat itself has the full transom in the back. More Boats. A well-set-up boat in the runabout or bass boat category should get on top in 4 to 5 seconds, and the foils make that possible in many cases with packages that previously took 8 to 10 seconds to get up, if they ever made it. Painting Your Jon Boat There are lots of shabby-looking Jon boats out there that lost the paint long ago, for no other reason than the owners won't put a quart of paint on them every five to 10 years. 1990 24 Ft. Preimer Pontoon Boat W / 50 HP. Just remember not to shift back into neutral, or the engine will cut out again. With the vent closed you may not have been getting enough fuel. You can find highly rated great aluminum boat paints such as Pettit paint, Bottom Shield or Rust-Oleum on the market. A simple boat at its best for fishing along streams, a bayou, or a lake. The second step is to calculate how much buoyancy your jon boat currently has. By continuing to use this site you consent to the use of cookies on your device as described in our cookie policy unless you have disabled them. It seems funny, given the fact that you're in the middle of the boat that the bow wouldn't come down. Reduce draft and get on plane faster. by 2feettexan » 27 Feb 2011, 22:59, Post by 2feettexan » 28 Feb 2011, 22:35, Post They usually have one, two, or even three benches and vary in design and size. Take no fishing gear, trolling motor, coolers, gear, or any other non essential items to test it. Give the boat and yourself some seat time to figure out different combinations of weight distribution and tilt adjustments. It had an aluminum prop which was nicked pretty bad so I ordered a PowerTech prop and put on it. by shamoo » 11 Jun 2010, 12:13, Post You will only be able to go so fast if it won't get up on plane but I would think a 25 should make that fly. This is general talk about anything not related to boating/fishing. Trolling motors will usually offer just enough power to push a Jon a boat upstream but it won’t offer you much speed and it is doubtful you will get the boat on plane. Every time I went full throttle the boat nose came up and we really did not have a lot of speed. Today, we build the most rugged, hardest working line-up of Jons using the best materials available. I just purchased a 2008 1448 SC W/25 hp El 4S EFI Mercury grizzly tracker. In the worst case, harder objects can damage the impeller, wear ring, or the drive shaft. by PartsMan » 28 Feb 2011, 23:29, Post 5 HP on a 12' jon seems kind of small to get on plane. by Outdoorsman » 11 Jun 2010, 15:54, Post Fish and hunt where others can't with a rugged Lund aluminum Jon boat. Alumacraft's Jon Boats feature a one piece aluminum hull. How do you get a Jon boat on plane? The boat wont get on plane for some reason. by Johnnyrose » 11 Jun 2010, 08:34, Post I never did quite get it right and it's frustrating to know it should perform better (I think weight distribution was the problem in the end). It took alot of adjusting to get it there. i would seriously consider buying a hydrofoil wing. The best ones are made of durable materials that can withstand harsh or rugged conditions out on the water. by baseball_guy_99 » 01 Mar 2011, 02:39, Post The Crestliner 1860 Retriever Jon is a strong and simple way to get out on the water and enjoy the day. If a plug is fouled you will experience a dramatic loss of power. on a 12 ft boat with an adult would be a little under powered to get up on plane. I did not get to try it out before I bought it due to weather conditions. I have the Motor Pin in the second hole nearest to the transom, only 1 more hole. I have a 1448 Flat Bottom with a '76 9.9 Johnson (15 horse carb). and have a boat that has a much deeper draft than it is intended to have and squats down in the water and won't get up on plane. Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Posted by admin on Dec 31, 2012 in Boat Accessories, Boating | 3 comments. For jon boats possessing foam buoyancy, you will have to measure dimensions of individual pieces of the foam, then multiply (length x width x height). Some users also report reduced exhaust noise when the boat is on plane. I am going to 2nd and 3rd the guys stating power problems. How far is your cavitation plate below the bottom of your boat? That 25 should be able to hop the front end trying to get out the water if set too high. Could this have been the whole problem, just not enough air to let the motor reach max rpm? Take no fishing gear, trolling motor, coolers, gear, or any other non essential items to test it. If it will not plane while empty, it will not plane loaded. When considering various types of jon boat oars, it’s important to pay close attention to the boat you’re buying the oars for as well as the quality you’re interested in. Suitable for both fresh and saltwater, the Stalker MV 120 is a very compact, stable, … The extra thrust offered by a larger outboard motor will mean it is easier to achieve good speeds on a Jon and get the boat on plane for that extra ultra smooth fast cruising. And obviously, shifting this fast can be hard on the engine; it’s okay to do it once or twice to save the day, but before taking the boat out again get that valve fixed. Also, mounting the motor on a jack plate is advisable for greater efficiency. Jon boat seats are made for rugged outdoor experiences. Thinking about getting a 1648 jon and currently only have a 96 two stroke 9.9 Yamaha. The cranking battery and the fuel tank are in back between the seat and the transom. Our Jons battle the elements with 5052-H34 aluminum alloy and durable acrylic olive drab paint. However, the same sized tunnel-hull jon boat may perform a little less efficiently with a 40 HP motor. I dont think a 5 hp has enough umph to plane a 12 ft. jon. Some of the most widely-known builders of jon boats presently include: Tracker, G3, SeaArk, Lowe and Excel. Set up the way you say you have it (TM and batt up front, gas tank and batt in back) it should plane no problem even with the motor in the 2nd position. That 25 should be able to hop the front end trying to get out the water if set too high. Could be the tank not being vented. Thus, jon boat … by reedjj » 28 Feb 2011, 10:45, Post Maybe should move the battery or fuel tank forward if at all possible. by thudpucker » 11 Jun 2010, 17:55, Aero style developed for phpBB My pin has to be in the 2nd hole with 2 people and in the 1st hole with just me. The length of jon boat oars should be about 3 times the halved width of your jon boat. by bAcKpAiN » 28 Feb 2011, 22:08, Post Boats. Change the trim setting if it still will not plane. 18 Amazing Jon Boat Modifications You Won’t Believe are Real … I'm wondering if someone makes a bolt on Jack Plate that can manually move the motor up and down or one that is specifically made for this particular setup. by Froggy » 11 Jun 2010, 16:36, Post Don't take this wrong, but how much do you weigh ?? Can anyone give me an idea on how to get my 12' river jon to plane with just me in the boat? For higher payloads, consider one of the larger V-twin engines such as the Kohler or Briggs 35 hp engines. I have a 5hp B&S transom steer motor on it and it just doesn't seem to be able to plane the boat out no matter what I do with the manual trim pin. Speed test on 14ft Jon Boat with Mercury 15hp 2-stroke motor. The Lund Jon Boat series features flat-bottomed fishing and hunting boats designed to float in extremely shallow waters. by bobberboy » 28 Feb 2011, 09:35, Post Post Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. I couldn't bring myself to drill holes into the cavitation plate of a new motor and I never put my hydrofoil on. If the water in your area is full of debris or weeds, you won’t be happy with a jet ski jon boat combo, as the jet propulsion system will suck up this debris, blocking the impeller and the whole engine. Boats. I agree a 5 hp. ... etc. I did discover after I put the boat back on the trailer that the vent cap on the gas tank was not all the way vented, my mistake. Explore All Aluminum Fishing Boat Types Advantages of a Jon Boat. Lund is no stranger to the Jon boat world. 14-16 foot Jon Boats are best used in … A 12' or 14' jon boat: Build in Plywood: Share This Page! You should be fine but as someone else mentioned, know your limits with the boat. Just remember most of guys here (me included) didn't get our boats perfectly set up the first time we took it out. by reedjj » 01 Mar 2011, 09:00, Post It's really easy to adjust to whatever conditions in the boat change like number of people, weight distribution, etc. 2021 Galeon 325 GTO. It does not have power tilt and trim. How to Anchor With No Anchor. It has an 11 degree pitch per the folks from power tech. Are you sure you went the right way with the motor? I have the same boat and motor except mine is not a SC. A 15 hp would be able to get that boat on plane. I went from the original 9p that came with the boat to an 11.5p as per the Mercury Prop Selector they have on the Mercury website. If it still won't plane might need to see the Dr.